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Radio host: Good morning dear listeners! It is tuesday and that means that we pick a random book of a British author and talk about it. Today we are going to deal with Stuart Maconie's "Adventures on the High Teas: In Search of Middle England". As a special guest we invited Euan Ferguson, a journalist of the Guardian who has written an acrticle about Maconie´s book. Welcome Mr. Ferguson!
Euan Ferguson: Thank you for the invitation.
Radio host: Mr. Ferguson I think that Maconie's book is very interesting but the fourth chapter "Let them eat Twizzlers" interested me most. As you may know I am not from England and that is why I am not used to such struggles concerning a nation's cuisine. I have the feeling that besides Marmite and the English Breakfast some people in England suffer from their own special trauma in this regad.
Euan Ferguson: (laughs) From my point of view noticing such a phenomonon is much easier if you are not from here. Since you are not from England you have the possibility to compare but if you are from here and used to the food then there is no special trauma. Some people are just used to "bad" food such as turkey twizzlers.
Radio host: I read several times about these Twizzlers in the fourth chapter. Could you please help my memory? What are these Twizzlers exactly and what was the hype about it in England?
Euan Ferguson: The Turkey Twizzlers were a formed-meat product by the Bernard Matthews Holdings. They were found in many school canteens in England until the famous chef Jamie Oliver criticised them in 2005 in his show. Oliver replaced them by a pasta sauce which had twice as much salt as the Turkey Twizzlers.
Radio Host: Ah thank you I was not aware of that anymore. Staying with the unhealthy things we will have a closer look at alcoholic beverages. What does Maconie tell about England's history of alcohol consumption?
Euan Ferguson: He mentions a funny fact. Do you know the phenomenon of binge drinking teenagers young people today do? Drinking as much as you can for a fixed price? It probably has it's roots in England of the 1700s when Gin was popular and cheap. Drinking and being drunk became so common that the government had to pass a Gin law.
Radio Host: In Germany of the early 19th century there was a similar phenomenon which was the so called "Brandy plague". In terms of taxes brandy became so cheap that most people drank liquor instead of beer. This led to extensive alcohol dependency but after the government raised taxes people came back to beer. Talking about beer: Why does Maconie mentions many breweries that had already gone bankrupt?
Euan Ferguson: You mean the breweries in Burton-on-Trent, right? You must know that in Burton the brewers had a good reputation and a rather big influence. On the other hand especially in western cultures beer play an important role not only concerning the national cuisine but also the culture and pub culture. Having a large amount of breweries in a town means having a large amount of several tastes in your regional pubs. It is a kind of identity and with every brewerie that goes bankrupt a piece of identity gets lost.
Radio Host: Furthermore the breweries provide a waste product which is the main ingredient for Englands most important spread.
Euan Ferguson: What our radio host tries to introduce, my dear listeners, is something the rest of the world cannot gain sympathy for. We are talking about Marmite. It is a spread made of yeast, a waste product of beer production, which is very popular in England and in some other countries like Australia. It tastes very salty and for unexperienced eaters it is very extraordinary falvour.
Radio Host: Sorry to interrumpt you but from my point of view it tastes horrible. Something I would not give even to my greatest enemies.
Euan Ferguson: (laughs) Another funny fact is that German prisoners of war got also Marmite to eat. Maybe it was the condition of the unconditional surrender.
Radio Host: Coming to a conclusion I can fully recommend the famous English Breakfast to my dear listeners. I hope you have enjoyed our conversation and that you will follow the next show, too.
Sprache: Englisch
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Euan Ferguson: Thank you for the invitation.
Radio host: Mr. Ferguson I think that Maconie's book is very interesting but the fourth chapter "Let them eat Twizzlers" interested me most. As you may know I am not from England and that is why I am not used to such struggles concerning a nation's cuisine. I have the feeling that besides Marmite and the English Breakfast some people in England suffer from their own special trauma in this regad.
Euan Ferguson: (laughs) From my point of view noticing such a phenomonon is much easier if you are not from here. Since you are not from England you have the possibility to compare but if you are from here and used to the food then there is no special trauma. Some people are just used to "bad" food such as turkey twizzlers.
Radio host: I read several times about these Twizzlers in the fourth chapter. Could you please help my memory? What are these Twizzlers exactly and what was the hype about it in England?
Euan Ferguson: The Turkey Twizzlers were a formed-meat product by the Bernard Matthews Holdings. They were found in many school canteens in England until the famous chef Jamie Oliver criticised them in 2005 in his show. Oliver replaced them by a pasta sauce which had twice as much salt as the Turkey Twizzlers.
Radio Host: Ah thank you I was not aware of that anymore. Staying with the unhealthy things we will have a closer look at alcoholic beverages. What does Maconie tell about England's history of alcohol consumption?
Euan Ferguson: He mentions a funny fact. Do you know the phenomenon of binge drinking teenagers young people today do? Drinking as much as you can for a fixed price? It probably has it's roots in England of the 1700s when Gin was popular and cheap. Drinking and being drunk became so common that the government had to pass a Gin law.
Radio Host: In Germany of the early 19th century there was a similar phenomenon which was the so called "Brandy plague". In terms of taxes brandy became so cheap that most people drank liquor instead of beer. This led to extensive alcohol dependency but after the government raised taxes people came back to beer. Talking about beer: Why does Maconie mentions many breweries that had already gone bankrupt?
Euan Ferguson: You mean the breweries in Burton-on-Trent, right? You must know that in Burton the brewers had a good reputation and a rather big influence. On the other hand especially in western cultures beer play an important role not only concerning the national cuisine but also the culture and pub culture. Having a large amount of breweries in a town means having a large amount of several tastes in your regional pubs. It is a kind of identity and with every brewerie that goes bankrupt a piece of identity gets lost.
Radio Host: Furthermore the breweries provide a waste product which is the main ingredient for Englands most important spread.
Euan Ferguson: What our radio host tries to introduce, my dear listeners, is something the rest of the world cannot gain sympathy for. We are talking about Marmite. It is a spread made of yeast, a waste product of beer production, which is very popular in England and in some other countries like Australia. It tastes very salty and for unexperienced eaters it is very extraordinary falvour.
Radio Host: Sorry to interrumpt you but from my point of view it tastes horrible. Something I would not give even to my greatest enemies.
Euan Ferguson: (laughs) Another funny fact is that German prisoners of war got also Marmite to eat. Maybe it was the condition of the unconditional surrender.
Radio Host: Coming to a conclusion I can fully recommend the famous English Breakfast to my dear listeners. I hope you have enjoyed our conversation and that you will follow the next show, too.
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